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 Post subject: Putem folosi asteroizii?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:17 pm 
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Ce credeti,putem folosi intr-o interpretare asteroizii,sau semnificatia lor o putem raporta la planete asa cum raportam aspectele minore la aspectele majore?Este semnificatia astrologica a asteroizilor inclusa intr-o interpretare care lasa deoparte aceste corpuri ceresti?
Am citit cate ceva despre asteroizii cu semnificatie astrologica si cred ca este un subiect interesant.Voi ce parere aveti?



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Marian, nu stiu daca am inteles bine intrebarea, dar daca e ceea ce am inteles eu, pot sa spun ca sunt astrologi ( e drept, foarte putini; eu stiu numai doi!!!) care includ in analizele lor influenta asteroizilor . De exemplu, in ultima vreme Junon imi pare a fi o mica vedeta, asa este de activa...( ma refer la analizele postate de Gheorghita pe site, pe forum, unde nu numai asteroidul Junon este prezent). La fel , Urania are in emisiunea tv spatiu alocat tranzitului asteroizilor prin semnele zodiacale...uite, astazi am aflat din emisiunea ei ca in perioada care urmeaza, adica o saptamana, Capricornul va fi foarte puternic aspectat de 13 asteroizi....
Astrologii de care ziceam isi permit sa nu ignore prezenta asteroizilor in tranzit intr-o analiza, dar pentru majoritatea cred ca este dificil de abordat din cauza ca se cunosc prea putine lucruri despre aceste corpuri ceresti.



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buna intrebare, eu a intalnit un tip al carui soare in scorpion venea fix peste tripla mea conj lilith juno eros...si pot sa spun ca a facut o mica obsesie pt mine, asta cred ca e vina lui lilith...soare peste juno stiu ca e un semn clasic de mariaj, iar peste eros,habar nu am...



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Iata ceva despre Junona,de astrologul Bob Marks (din pacate in limba engleza),un tip cu un umor de calitate si care aduce importante informatii:


"Juno in the horoscope gives a good indication of the kind of marriage partner that we need and will get. Not the partner we think we want (those are ruled by Venus and Mars), but the one we need and actually wind up with. Let's get things straight here before we go into the details about Juno in your horoscope. Venus and Mars show what we consider to be our ideal man or woman. The 5th house describes the type of people we tend to get involved with romantically. The 7th house tells us the kind of person our first marriage partner will be (and the 9th house describes our 2nd marriage partner, if any). Juno works on a more fundamental level.

Juno in the Signs:

Juno in Aries: The partner will tend to be fiery, aggressive, assertive, and active. Grass doesn't grow under their feet.

Juno in Taurus: Solid, stable, and of course stubborn describes this partner.

Juno in Gemini: You should never marry a silent type. Talk, talk, and more talk in a partner is what you need. It also helps if they are versatile and clever.

Juno in Cancer: You need a sensitive, nurturing partner. Careful though. If Juno is making too many stressful aspects, you will have to nurture them, and they will whine and complain endlessly.

Juno in Leo: No, your partner does not have to be in show business, but they will tend to have showy qualities, be creative, or be very playful. On the other hand, they may be arrogant, bossy childlike, or immature, especially if Juno makes some stress aspects. In any case, give up any idea of attracting a shy, retiring type.

Juno in Virgo: You need a partner who is efficient, works hard, and watches out for your health. All right, so they may be a little critical at times (or at all times), especially if your Juno has stress aspects (the square, opposition, and some conjunctions).

Juno in Libra: You need a partner who is charming, social, and has a good artistic sense.

Juno in Scorpio: The need is for a partner who is intense, strong, and a bit secretive. They definitely must be good in bed.

Juno in Sagittarius: The partner will tend to come from an entirely different background and may even be a foreigner. Even if the partner is not a Sagittarian, they may have Sagittarian traits. They may be involved in higher education or take frequent long trips, and they may talk a lot and listen only a little (if at all).

Juno in Capricorn: Your need is for a practical partner who is a good organizer and can help you in business. Don't expect them to show too much emotion.

Juno in Aquarius: You need a partner that's - well - different. They may be a genius, eccentric, or just plain insane (maybe all of the above). It may be the partnership that is different. Aquarius is a sign that is fanatic about independence and having enough space. A bi-costal marriage where the two people spend a good deal of time apart is a good situation for the Pallas in Aquarius individual.

Juno in Pisces: This one may be satisfied with an imaginary partner! If they happen to be married to (or living with) a real person, then they can use imagination to eliminate the partner's shortcomings and add virtues to taste. Please be careful not to marry someone because you feel sorry for them or want to "save" them.

Juno in the Houses:

Juno in the 1st House: The 1st house is you, how you approach the world. Juno placed here can make being a partner the centerpiece of your life. Juno in the first house can also give you an air of innocence, something like a newborn child. This is especially true if Juno is within 10 degrees of the Ascendant and in the same sign.

Juno in the 2nd House: This is the house of money, possessions, and one's sense of self-worth. Marriage will likely bring an increase in the sense of self worth. They could also seek to get married to improve their sense of self worth, but of course that seldom works. In this case, they usually don't pick the best partner. They will tend to stay even in a bad marriage because divorce for them could be devastating. They could also marry for money or regard their marriage partner as a possession. On the other hand, they may literally be married to their possessions, spending most of their time accumulating more and more.

Juno in the 3rd House: Communication will tend to be an especially important here, and marriage or partnership will tend to improve the communications ability of anyone with this placement, especially if there are harmonious aspects to Juno (sextile and trine). Stressful aspects on the other hand (square and opposition) could indicate that the marriage can reduce communications ability.

Juno in the 4th House: This person can be married to their home. Juno in the 4th house can also indicate a need for a partner who is attached to the domestic environment. Another possibility is that you become more of a domestic type after marriage.

Juno in the 5th House: Marriage tends to improve creativity with this placement. The partner would also tend to be a creative person, or good with children, sports, games, and hobbies. If afflicted, watch out. They may act like a child themselves and want to play all the time instead of work.

Juno in the 6th House: This person can be married to their work. They are more likely to marry a co-worker! More often, though, Juno in the 6th house shows a need for a partner that one can work with. If there are stress aspects (the square or opposition, or the conjunction to a malefic) then partnership and work won't blend well. In that case, either you will try to turn the partner into a servant, or they will try to do the same to you. Strive for some equality here if you don't want the partnership to break up.

Juno in the 7th House: This simply increases the need for a marriage or partnership. Those things will tend to be the cornerstone of your life.

Juno in the 8th House: You need a Sex Machine for a partner. Since the 8th house rules the partner's possessions, well, they may regard you as a possession (especially if there are stress aspects). Marriage and partnership can also help you to reconstruct or transform yourself (whether you want to or not).

Juno in the 9th House: You need a partner with whom you can travel (long trips, not short ones) and "philosophize." The partner will tend to be someone born a great distance from you (even a foreigner) or from a totally different background.

Juno in the 10th House: This placement of Juno can indicate marriage to the career. More likely, it will show that the partner will help you in your career and social standing. If there are stressful aspects to Juno, the partner may "help" you whether you want them to or not. Or you may not like the partner, but you feel you cannot get a divorce because either your career or social standing will suffer.

Juno in the 11th House: Marriage to social activities is a possibility here. You could marry a friend, or become friends with the partner after marriage. The partner may be the one involved with organizations or social causes, or you could get involved with those things yourself after marriage.

Juno in the 12th House: Watch out for this one. There is an increased chance that the first marriage (or business) partner can do you in, or even be an enemy. More likely, it is you who are doing yourself in by getting attracted to the wrong person. This will be especially true if there are stressful aspects to Juno or to the ruler of the 7th house. It could also work out that the partner is really a nice person, but is restricted in some way and requires your constant help.

Juno Aspects: Juno in aspect to any planet can mean you will tend to attract a partner who has traits of the sign that planet rules. For instance, Juno aspecting Mars could attract you to an Aries type.

Juno Aspects the Sun: There will be a tendency to attract showy, dramatic, Leo types of partners. Conversely, this person could themselves become more showy and dramatic after marriage. The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile, and trine) can act in a similar fashion to Venus. They increase the charm and social graces to a degree. But Juno goes further. It can give one an air of innocence. We like people with Venus in conjunction the Sun because they are charming. Those with Juno in harmonious aspect to the Sun are liked because they are "cute." The stressful aspects, however, are indicators of ego conflicts with partners. Frequently, there are big problems with getting and holding on to a partner. In many cases, there is no desire to have a partner at all. Demetra George in her excellent book Asteroid Goddesses quotes Gloria Steinhem's famous answer to the question "Why didn't you ever get married?" Steinhem (who has the Sun in Aries square Juno in Capricorn) replied, "I don't mate well in captivity."

Juno Aspects the Moon: The attraction will be to emotional and nurturing partners, and domestic types. At least they will tend to be nurturing with the harmonious aspects conjunction, sextile and trine. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) can indicate a clash between your emotional and partnership needs. You could get a partner who is over-emotional or whines a lot. Conversely, the partner could bring out those traits in you.

Juno Aspects Mercury: Well, your partner won't be quiet. Forget the silent type. Anyone who marries you will have to communicate, communicate, communicate. The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) indicate good communication between the two of you. It could also show that your ability to communicate improves with partnership. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) can indicate communication problems with partners. One of you may try to stifle the other here because you both want to talk at once.

Juno Aspects Venus: The attraction will be to a charming partner with good artistic ability and taste. At least that will tend to be true for the harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine). The stressful aspects (square and opposition) could attract a lazy, slothful, and indolent partner. Partnership could also bring out these traits in you. With stressful aspects, there will tend to be a clash between your partnership needs (Juno) and your ability to express love and affection (Venus). As a result, you might find it difficult to express love to your partner (or vice-versa) and would seek to do this elsewhere. Years ago, there was a TV program called "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman" which was a satire on soap operas. Mary's husband had affairs with all the other women in town and was impotent only with her.

Juno Aspects Mars: Marriage and partnership will stir you to action. In fact, you may need a partner to be active at all. The partners you attract will tend to be active, assertive, and aggressive. Conversely, having a partner may bring out these traits in you. The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) are indicators of arguments with partners. One of you may try to dominate the other.

Juno Aspects Jupiter: The partner will tend to be expansive optimistic, and "jovial" (jovial comes from Jove, Jupiter). Marriage and partnerships will also have an expansive effect on you. Yes, it can make you more optimistic. Watch out that it doesn't make you fat as well. At least this will be true for the harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine). The stressful aspects (square, and opposition) can attract an over-optimistic partner who is always expecting their "lucky break" to be right around the corner. There could also be a clash over religious or philosophical differences. The over-expansiveness could also apply to extra-marital affairs. If you have a stress aspect between Juno and Jupiter, either you or your partner might think that the "to have, hold, and love" part of the marriage vow means anyone whom you fancy at the moment.

Juno Aspects Saturn: The partners will tend to be older (in spirit if not in actual years). With the harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) partners are likely to be solid, practical, and dependable, but, unless there are other indicators, don't expect them to be the life of the party. Conversely, partnership could bring out the solid, practical, and dependable side of you.The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) may cause marriage to be delayed, or even denied. If you have this one, try not to get married before your first Saturn Return (which occurs around the age of twenty nine). Stressful aspects between Juno and Saturn can have a similar effect to Saturn placed in the 7th house. An early marriage (before the Saturn Return) will slowly decay until there is no affection left and the marriage collapses. Juno/Saturn stress aspects can also indicate someone who makes a bad marriage for "practical" reasons, such as security. They will also be prone to stay in a bad marriage to protest their social image, or because "a half a loaf is better than none." As if there is anything "practical" about having a bad marriage! These people have to learn to cut their losses and make a fresh start.

Juno Aspects Uranus: If you have this combination in your horoscope (especially the stressful aspects, the conjunction, square, or opposition) I have a question for you. Let's say you walk into a room where there are twenty people, and nineteen of them are sane and normal, but the twentieth person either escaped from an insane asylum or just got off of a UFO, guess which one you would be most likely to marry? (Hint: it's not the first nineteen). Uranus always has to be Different. When Juno aspects Uranus, the partner or the partnership has to be different. With the harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) you don't get into as much trouble. The partner will tend to be independent, or very bright, or a bit odd. The partnership itself will likely be more "open" with each partner doing their own thing and going their own way. Uranus is fanatic about having enough of its own space. The stressful aspects can lead to several marriages. Elizabeth Taylor has Juno in Cancer square Uranus in Aries (Uranus is also in a close conjunction with Venus). Years ago, Julian Armistead gave a lecture on her chart. He had several of the press clippings that quoted her at the time of her marriages. Her first marriage to Nick Hilton: "I've never known it was possible to be this much in love. This is going to last forever." Her second marriage a couple of years later to Michael Wilding: "This time, it's the real thing. This is going to last forever." Her fifth marriage to - well who can keep track? "This time I mean it. It's the real thing." Juno in Cancer always wants it to last "forever" and Uranus always makes you think it's the "real thing." If you have a Juno/Uranus stress aspect, don't rush into marriage. And forget about having a partnership that is conventional. It would bore you to tears - and divorce. Make sure that you and your partner each has enough "space." It helps if one of you travels a lot (Uranus aspects are perfect for bi-costal marriages). Absence for this combination truly makes the heart grow fonder.

Juno Aspects Neptune: If you have a stressful aspect (conjunction, square, or opposition) between Juno and Neptune, please, PLEASE do not marry someone because you feel sorry for them or because you want to "save" them. Remember this magic number. If you do, you will never again have the problem of getting into a marriage for the wrong reasons. Please memorize it. It's 911. Dial that and have them taken away so they can be helped by a professional. Then, get into therapy yourself to cure your masochism. On the positive side especially with the harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) the partner will tend to be sensitive, empathetic, and imaginative. Marriage and partnership can also bring out these same traits in you. In all cases, there will be an inclination to over idealize the partner, to see what we want to see about them.

Juno Aspects Pluto: Partners will tend to be intense and secretive. Sex can be volcanic. Pluto is the planet of extremes, death, and transformation. Either your power or that of your partner will be affected by marriage. One of you is likely to be transformed in some way. The harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) can bring out a strength you never thought you had. The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) will bring out strength too, in the form of dictatorial attitudes and power struggles. One of you will try to dominate the other. The feelings towards the partner can easily go from "I love you" to "I hate you" to "I'm obsessed with you." Even if the two of you break up, this will be the partner you never forget (for better or worse).

Juno Aspects the Ascendant: Juno in conjunction with the Ascendant makes us more attractive, like Venus. But while Venus uses charm, Juno attracts by giving us an air of innocence, like that of a young baby. This trait is also present with the other harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) but not quite as strong. The opposition is not a stressful aspect here. Remember that an opposition to the Ascendant is also a conjunction to the Descendant. The conjunction to the Ascendant makes a person more marriage oriented, especially if Juno is in the 1st house. If Juno is on the 12th house side of the Ascendant, however, then there will still be an increased desire to marry, but there will be increased restrictions of some sort (see Juno in the 12th house). With the square aspect of Juno to the Mid-Heaven, there would tend to be extra stress in marriage that requires constant adjustment and re-adjustment. At least it will not be dull.

Juno Aspects the Mid-Heaven: Aspects to the Mid-Heaven affect one's career and "public image." Juno-ruled careers include marriage councilor and people who work in organizations that try to prevent wife-battering and child abuse. Like Venus, Juno has an attraction for all occupations that involve beauty and adornment. This also includes anything involving the arts. When it comes to career, it doesn't matter if an aspect to the Mid-Heaven is harmonious or stressful. In fact, the stressful aspects can frequently bring greater success since they generate more power. Those with harmonious aspects may take it too easy and not push hard enough.

How to Put it all Together:

Ok, so now you have some idea of the partner you need. But what if the house position, sign placement, and aspects seem contradictory? Let's run through some examples.

Suppose you have Juno in Libra (a need for a charming, artistic partner) but is in the 5th house (children, creativity, fun and games). You would tend to need a charming partner that you could have fun with.
Children would also take on increased importance here. Now what if that Juno in Libra were in the 10th house? You would still need a charming partner, only now fun is not what you are after. This charming partner would have to help you in your career.

How about Juno in Scorpio in the 5th house? There would still be a need for fun and games, but now the partner is intense and volcanic. Of course sex takes on increased importance here.

Play around with some more examples. Mix and match. See what you can come up with. Mixing practice and play is one of the best ways to learn anything, astrology included."



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:22 pm 
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da,la mine se aplica , am venus careu juno, si juno trigon marte si mercur...



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Tipul pare foarte versat in astrologie si are un umor fantastic.Informatiile pe care le da despre asteroizi si aspectele acestora sint aplicabile.



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Iata ce spune despre Vesta (cu acelasi umor profund):

"Vesta's placement in the horoscope shows where and how we can be dedicated, where we can focus our energies to the greatest effect. But it also shows where, periodically, we have to withdraw and "recharge our batteries." If we don't, we will become drained, and even sick.
Vesta also has an effect on our sexuality, but it is not the raw, animal drive of Mars or Pluto. It is more of a reasoned choice, which is in tune with Vesta's affinity with the sign of Virgo.

Lenore Cantor told the following story in a lecture some years back. She was going to visit the late Charles Emerson and she got stuck between floors in his elevator. While she was waiting for the repair crew to arrive, Charles shouted down the elevator shaft: "Lenore, where's your Vesta?"

Vesta also rules small, confined places.

Vesta in the Houses:

Vesta in the 1st House: Every now and then, you have to get away from everybody and everything in order to recharge. If Vesta is close to the Ascendant, there may have been some blockage at the time of birth.

Vesta in the 2nd House: You have to stop work more often than other people in order to recharge, but this only applies to work where you earn money. You can still do personal tasks around the house. This is different from those who have Vesta in the 6th house because those folks have to stop all work periodically.

Vesta in the 3rd House: To recharge, you have to clam up and stop communicating for a while. If you have brothers or sisters, you can't be around them continuously because they can drain you. You have to get away. Neighbors have the same effect, but since one is not usually around them 24 hours a day, this will be less of a problem.

Vesta in the 4th House: Being home too much will drain you. This is easy enough to cure. Just get out more.

Vesta in the 5th House: Romance can be hot and heavy, but then you simply have to take a break. Be sure to explain to your lovers that you have Vesta in the 5th house and that means you have to get away for a while to recharge because otherwise you may get sick. I'm sure they will understand. The 5th house also rules children, sports, games, creativity, gambling, speculation, hobbies, and any activity that is fun. Explain to your spouse that every now and then, THEY have to watch the little darlings because you get too drained. Creative pursuits, sports, and games can also be tolerated for only so long. Then you have to withdraw and recharge. It is the same with hobbies. No matter how much you love them, you have to get away for a while every now and then. As for gambling and speculation, well, don't become a day-trader.

Vesta in the 6th House: I have this one. Every now and then, you have to take an extra day off from work. If you don't, you will get drained and sick. When you do work, you can be highly focused. The nature of your work style will depend on the sign that Vesta is in

Vesta in the 7th House: When you are married or living with someone (someone you are involved with, and not just a roommate) you have to have your own space. You cannot be around them 24 hours a day. Get away, even if it is just for an hour or so at a time. If not, you will tend to get drained and sick. Be sure to discuss this with them before you move in together, otherwise they might think it is strange when you want to take separate vacations.

Vesta in the 8th House: A long time ago, there was a quiz show called "You Bet Your Life" hosted by Groucho Marx. One of the contestants had nine children. When he was asked why he had so many children, the gentleman replied "I like it Groucho." Groucho's punch line was "I like my cigar too, but I take it out of my mouth every now and then." Sorry, but if you have Vesta in the 8th house, you (unlike that gentleman) simply cannot have sex 24/7. Take a break.

Vesta in the 9th House: This is the house of long journeys, both mental and physical. This includes higher education. If you are studying for an advanced degree, make sure to allow extra time in the schedule for rest. You can only be on a long trip for a certain length of time. Stay away from home too long and you will get drained.

Vesta in the 10th House: Like those with Vesta in the 6th house, you have to get away from work in order to recharge. In addition, you also have to stay out of the public eye. Hide for a while until you recharge. The 10th house rules the "boss" as well. If you have one, you have to find some way to avoid them every now and then.

Vesta in the 11th House: Let your friends know that periodically you have to get away from them in order to recharge. You also have to take a periodic break from pursuing your own "hopes and wishes."

Vesta in the 12th House: This is the house of withdrawal. Paradoxically, you have to withdraw from withdrawing! Don't spend a long time on a religious retreat, for instance, or in a hospital. Just being in a place of restriction or withdrawal will tend to drain you.

Vesta in the Signs:

Vesta in Aries: gives the ability to focus quickly and intensively on any task. Good for non-routine projects requiring direct action.

Vesta in Taurus: takes time to focus, but once they do, they may find it difficult to stop. Good for anything requiring lots of persistence.

Vesta in Gemini: focuses on communication and information. Good for focusing on multiple projects.

Vesta in Cancer: focuses on home and domestic matters. Good for any project requiring intuition and for focusing on the emotional or feeling side of any situation.

Vesta in Leo: focuses on creativity and self-expression. Good for focusing on the dramatic or creative side of any situation.

Vesta in Virgo: focuses on details. Good for any project requiring precision and attention to detail.

Vesta in Libra: focuses on partnership matters. Good for focusing on either the social or artistic side of any situation. Good also for projects requiring an artistic sense or social interaction.

Vesta in Scorpio: focuses on finding hidden secrets, or on matters concerning rehabilitation or elimination. Good for projects where something is either transformed or eliminated, or where something hidden must be investigated.

Vesta in Sagittarius: focuses on the "big picture." Good for projects requiring enthusiasm and the adventure.

Vesta in Capricorn: focuses on organization and control. Good for projects requiring a lot of planning and persistence.

Vesta in Aquarius: focuses on friends or dealing with groups of people. Good for projects that are new and "different," even a bit shocking.

Vesta in Pisces: focuses on dreams and imagination. Good for projects focusing on helping people, or for any project requiring lots of imagination.

Vesta in Aspect:

Vesta Aspecting the Sun: The harmonius aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) mean that the ability to focus will come more naturally to you. With the stressful aspects (square and opposition) you have to work at it. The tendency with the stressful aspects is either to be over focused, or have difficulty focusing at all.

Vesta Aspecting the Moon: The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) can give an instinctive ability to focus (as contrasted with the conscious, direct focusing ability of Sun-Vesta aspects). The stressful aspects (square and opposition) can indicate someone who uses work to avoid their own feelings, or a mother who was like that. The other side of Moon-Vesta stress aspects is the person who cannot seem to focus because their emotions run wild. It goes without saying that the real job in these cases is to work on expressing feelings without loosing focus and getting hysterical.

Vesta Aspecting Mercury: The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) increase the ability to focus on communication and other mental tasks. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) could mean a tendency to focus compulsively on details and day-to-day tasks (Mercury) or someone who cannot seem to handle them at all. There could also be a tendency to talk much and say little, or, more generally, a difficulty with communicating. This could also indicate someone who talks a good deal about sex, but can't deliver when it counts.

Vesta Aspecting Venus: Venus rules one's social skills and artistic abilities. More generally, it governs our ability to experience pleasure and be happy. Harmonious aspects ((conjunction, sextile and trine) with Vesta can make it easier to focus on these things. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) may indicate a tendency to avoid happiness by concentrating on work, or someone who has difficulty getting any pleasure from their work. Work could also be used to avoid social interaction. Conversely, this could be someone who only focuses on pleasure and social situations and refuses to work at all.

Vesta Aspecting Mars: The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) show increased ability to focus one's energy, especially on work. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) can indicate a tendency to overwork in order to compensate for sexual problems or problems with repressed anger. Other negative outcomes include an increase in angry behavior or other forms of aggression in order to compensate for impotence.

Vesta Aspecting Jupiter: Jupiter is the planet of optimism, and it expands whatever it touches. The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) between Jupiter and Vesta are good for focusing on the big picture or big projects, on intellectual, philosophical, or religious matters. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) could manifest as religious or philosophical fanaticism (too much focus on one's own point of view) or, conversely, a total lack of focus on matters involving general principles. Overemphasis of sexual matters is also more likely with the stress aspects.

Vesta Aspecting Saturn: Both of these have to do with the ability to focus. The harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) can increase the discipline, organization, and dedication that you devote to work. The stressful aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) can make for a workaholic drudge or someone who has difficulties (Saturn) focusing on work at all. Needless to say, stressful aspects between Saturn and Vesta increase the chance of sexual hang-ups, especially repression and denial.

Vesta Aspecting Uranus: Uranus shows where we cannot stand to be ordinary, where we tend to want to do things differently, where we may be able to manifest genius. The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) make it easier to focus our innovative abilities. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) could cause difficulties in focusing on ordinary, day-to-day pursuits (like doing the laundry or taking out the garbage) as well as giving a dislike or "normal" social obligations.

Vesta Aspecting Neptune: Neptune rules dreams and imagination. The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) tend to increase the ability to focus the imagination. This can be a very good placement for both artists and scientists, since it makes visualization of the final product easier. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) can make concentration on ordinary tasks more difficult. Contrast this with the Uranus/Vesta aspects. Uranus and Neptune both loathe anything ordinary, but whereas Uranus rebels, Neptune simply takes your mind away to daydream land.

Vesta Aspecting Pluto: Yes, Pluto concentrates too, but in a different way. Pluto rules obsession, which is a highly emotional thing. The harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) make it easier to transform things, to focus on finding whatever is hidden from normal view. This is a good placement for doctors, salvage operators, and detectives. The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) could indicate a problem with the more destructive side of Pluto. I really hate to give negative examples because there is always someone out there who will say "Oh no! I've got the same thing as that terrible person! I'm doomed to be just like them!" No you're not. It takes more than one aspect to do that, and yes, we DO have some choice in the matter. We can choose to manifest the positive side of any aspect. That being said, the serial killers Ted Bundy and Richard Cottingham (who were born only one day apart) both had the Sun opposite the Pluto/Vesta midpoint (as did thousands of others who were born on those days and who didn't become serial killers). Both had several other signatures of killers in their horoscopes, but this aspects tendency to focus on destruction didn't help. Of course, with proper therapy, they could have gone into the healing professions instead. In fact, Bundy was interested in psychology in college.

Vesta Aspecting the Ascendant: The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) make it easier to focus in general (particularly the conjunction). The opposition aspect could indicate focus on someone else (particularly a partner). It could also indicate that one focuses better when there is someone else around. The square aspect could show difficulties with partners over who does what work. Partners could also interfere with work and focus, but with the square, there could be difficulty focusing even without a partner because the things you want to focus on (shown by the sign where you have Vesta) clash with the type of person you are (shown by the sign on the Ascendant).

Vesta Aspecting the Mid-Heaven: The harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile and trine) make it easier to focus on career and career related matters. But remember that any aspect to the Mid-Heaven is also an aspect to the Nadir, the beginning of the 4th house. This means that Vesta in aspect to the Mid-Heaven can increase focus on domestic matters as well. For this reason, the opposition cannot be considered to be as stressful. In fact, the only stressful aspect here is the square. The square indicates someone who is (once again) a workaholic or, conversely, someone who has difficulty focusing on work, or tries to avoid it at all costs."



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 Post subject: Re: Putem folosi asteroizii?
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marian12345 wrote:
Voi ce parere aveti?


Sigur ca sunt importanti, dar nu pentru a inlocui interpretarea obtinuta din analiza asteroizilor, pe cea obtinuta din analiza planetelor. Multi, acum, se axeaza cel mai tare pe asteroizi ca si pe simbolurile sabiene, pentru ca li se oferea o interpretare de-a gata, are are un procent destul de mare de aplicabilitate si uita ca de fapt scopul studiului astrologiei este acela de a intelege intai mesajul sintetic al planetelor.
Asteroizii sunt importanti, dar nu mai importanti decat planetele.
In afara de Junon si Chiron eu nu folosesc in analize alti asteroizi. II cunosc, le accept utilitatea, dar nu-i folosesc.... cel putin deocamdata...



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