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 Post subject: casa 6- dependenta?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:32 pm 
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cunosc 2 tipi cu soarele mercur si uranus in casa 6, si amandoi au in comun o viata haotica,plus dependenta de droguri...de care s-au lasat,iar s-au apucat,si tot asa...ce credeti,poate casa 6 sa aiba influenta asta? caci alte aspecte comune in hartile lor nu vad...



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:08 pm 
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Ce "coincidenta"! :wink:
Si eu am un prieten care are EXACT aceleasi planete in casa 6.Nu stiu daca e dependent inca, dar si el fumeaza destul de des...
Tragand o concluzie din cele 3 harti, e posibil sa dea aspectul asta dependenta. :roll:



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Si ca sa nu vad paiu din ochiu altora si barna din ochiu meu nu, si eu am 2 planete in casa 6, uranus si neptun, ambele retro, si am dependentele mele.Cum ar fii tutunul,si mai nou- internetul. :mrgreen:



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:23 am 
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poti sa pui harta amicului tau?pun si eu una si vedem ce iese...


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:39 am 
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si pluto pe casa 5 e aspect comun...totusi nu inteleg ce ar avea casa 6 cu dependentele...ma asteptam mai degraba la casa 8 sau 12...



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:47 am 
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Pai, nemessis, casa 6 e recunoscuta pt faptul ca da dependenta...



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serios?? stiam ca e legata de sanatate,munca de zi cu zi...dar de fapt dependenta e un aspect in corelatie cu sanatatea...ce ignoranta sunt :D



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Dane Rudhyar’s perspective. He describes the 6th as territory in crisis—requiring reorientation and adjustment. Following the 5th house of creativity, children, and romance, the 6th describes what happens when our 5th house dreams collide with the real world. We realize our creative expressions don’t sing with immortality. We notice our romantic life has lost its radiance. Despite our best efforts, our children grumble and disappoint. In the 6th we notice life isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. We can drown in our failure. Or we can do something about it. We can change our approach, acquire new techniques. We can either suffer or grow.

“ Because the sixth house represents fundamentally everything that deals with personal crises and the way to meet them,” writes Rudhyar, “it shows, more than any other factor in the whole of the astrological field, how an individual can grow and become transformed.”2 To a traditional astrologer, this might sound like happy talk. It depends on whether you side more with fate or free will. Where traditionalists and moderns can agree is that the 6th often brings the test of suffering. Planets here require patience, endurance, faith, and above all, the effort to learn from one’s experience. Anyone with an emphasized natal 6th house, says Rudhyar, cannot escape the call to transform.
In most charts, the sign on the 1st house is inconjunct the sign on the 6th. Inconjuncts are an aspect of disequilibrium. They keep us off balance and require constant adjustments. This natural tension between the Ascendant and the 6th house cusp is like a perpetual motion machine, constantly returning us to the primary work of this house: Reality knocks and we must transform. In the 6th we break down experience and absorb its feedback. We improve our techniques and skills, urged forward towards a perhaps unattainable perfection. This marks the difference between a human’s work and a machine's. It's impossible to write perfect articles, give perfect readings, or be a perfect mom. But I keep trying. The awareness of how I fall short is often painful. Yet in the disequilibrium between my intent and its realization, I'm also urged forward again—toward new techniques, approaches, understandings. All of this is unlike my computer, who performs its tasks the same way each time, never caring how they’re received.

The 6th is where we build mastery of our craft. We may want nothing less than consistent success, but disequilibrium is where the magic is. Creativity often springs from failure. We can learn from our 6th house crises. And isn’t that the key to mastery of our life?


Fragmente dintr-un articol scris de Dana Gerhardt care sper sa va fie de folos.

Si inca ceva :

Uranus in Virgo (or the sixth house) gives an individual with a clever and enthusiastic mind, original in thought and action and not comfortable with routine. You are likely to have a scientific and analytical mentality. You can also be impatient with others, or lacking in sympathy for their concerns. You like to change jobs, and you are a hard worker, if allowed the freedom to work as you feel motivated. You may have to struggle with organizational elements at the expense of performance. You may also have health problems, since the Uranian energy is fitful in its application. You may experience difficulty with keeping things in order, but this can be overcome through persistence. You are likely to be interested in new-age healing techniques. You are on an important path of self-realization in this life, corresponding to your own unique vision, and will not be satisfied with anyone else's idea of what it is that you need to accomplish for yourself. You benefit from drawing out your original creative impulse into more long-lasting and concrete projects through concentration and technique.


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Deasemenea, casa a VI-a trebuie studiata in stransa corelatie cu casa a XII-a.

Personal consider ca dependenta are legatura cu Neptun si cu aspectele pe care acesta le face, casa in care se afla.
Un Uranus in VI cred ca arata crizele care erup pe neasteptate in rutina zilnica, posibilitatea de a integra aceste crize la nivel personal intr-un mod neobisnuit (pt. ceilalti) in viata noastra, o anume usurinta de a ne folosi de tehnologie, deschiderea pentru metode si terapii neconventionale.
Il am pe Uranus in C6 alaturi de inca 2 malefice si Lilith, dar nici nu-mi trece prin minte sa-l acuz ca sunt
fumatoare.
Rog sa ma corectati daca gresesc.



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 Post subject: Re: casa 6- dependenta?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:35 am 
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Daria wrote:
Deasemenea, casa a VI-a trebuie studiata in stransa corelatie cu casa a XII-a.

De acord, Daria....orice casa am analiza, nu trebuie omisa casa complementara ei.
As mai completa: nu trebuie omis faptul ca aceasta casa a VI a este in analogie cu semnul zodiacal Fecioara, de asemenea, particularizand pe diverse teme, de urmarit semnul zodiacal continut in casa, aspectele dintre guv casei, planetele din VI, guv asc, etc si apoi cred ca putem trage si concluzia referitoare la cauza dependentelor noastre.



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eu il am pe neptun pe asc, dar nu pot spune ca am vreo dependenta...fumez,dar nu mereu, am luni intregi in care nu pun mana pe tigara....in schimb, cand sunt la pamant, ma intoxic cu tigari si alcool si nesomn...simt nevoia sa merg pana la extreme, dupa care revin la normal fara nici o problema...dar mult mai linistita si mai echilibrata...

eu am casele 6 si 7 legate, asta inseamna ca partenerul e dependenta mea? :D



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Daria wrote:
Un Uranus in VI cred ca arata crizele care erup pe neasteptate in rutina zilnica, posibilitatea de a integra aceste crize la nivel personal intr-un mod neobisnuit (pt. ceilalti) in viata noastra,..... metode si terapii neconventionale.
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Daria, chiar m-am intrebat deseori ce-o cauta si insemna uranus-ul meu in casa 6...Dar la varianta data de tine nu m-am gandit niciodata, si pare una din putinele explicatii valabile in cazul meu...

Iti multumesc pentru asta! :D



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Ma bucur ca ti-am fost de folos !


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Dar de ce, totusi, axa 6-12 duce la dependente?Chiar m-am gandit la asta...
Si am luat-o asa:
- daca casa 12 inseamna libertate interioara, legatura cu Dumnezeu, drumul catre Sine, Iubirea Spirituala adica cea Adevarata si dezinteresata
- atunci casa 6, care e opusa ei si inseamna limitare, reguli, munca pt supravietuire, sanatate-boala
- iar daca casa 12 inseamna Iubire Spirituala, atunci casa 6 e iubirea omeneasca, ca sa zic asa ( o exprimare mai buna nu am gasit, sorry), care e echivalenta atasamentului, si unde de fapt, "te iubesc" inseamna "am nevoie de tine"?
- iar acest "am nevoie de tine" se transforma in timp in dependenta?
- si extrapoland, atunci ajungem si la nevoia de substante ca o lipsa a Iubirii adevarate si afectiunii celor din jur?

Are vreun sens ceea ce spun sau bat campii total? :roll:



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pai si eu gandesc cam asa, ca aglomerare de planete pe 6 si lipsa totala pe 12 inseamna ca nu exista acea legatura spirituala sau iubirea la nivel spiritual...si atunci ca sa compenseze cumva acest gol, isi indreapta atentia catre alte chestii care sa le induca acea stare pe care subconstient o cauta...



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Da, asa m-am gandit si eu.Dar in cazul prietenului meu, cel putin, relatia cu Divinitatea e puternica, si e un om cu o deschidere spirituala FOARTE MARE.Si in cazul asta, care mai e cauza? :?:



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pai degeaba ai deschiderea daca nu ai si contactul...ambii au kiron in 12...probabil acolo e buba,eu nu prea stiu sa il interpretez pe kiron, dar din ce am inteles, e rana pe care o purtam cu noi toata viata...



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Are si contactul, CREDE-MA!!!
Ma gandesc ca poate i se trage din fosta existenta...
Casa lui 6 indica faptul ca in anterioara a murit intr-un spital de nebuni.Poate are legatura cu asta...nu stiu. :roll:



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casa 12 stiu ca arata cam pe unde ai murit...



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Si daca casa 12 e goala ce te faci? :wink:
Si casa 6 indica, si casa 4.
Bine, eu cred ca toata harta contine indicii directe catre celelalte existente.Doar harta asta e consecinta fostelor existente, nu? :roll:



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ok...am casa 4 in berbec si neptun pe 12 conj cu asc...ce am fost, amazoana sau preoteasa? :lol:



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Atlant! :lol: :lol: :lol:



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